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Garry Tan Wants US Labs Distilling Frontier Models

Y Combinator's Garry Tan is pushing US open-weight AI labs to distill frontier models just as aggressively as Chinese labs do, arguing restrictions would hurt the ecosystem more than any single company's IP.

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NSA, FBI, CISA
Advisory flagged risk
Chinese distillation
Target of advisory
let US labs distill too
Tan's position
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Edited by Trace Cohen · Early-stage VC & angel · Founder, New York Venture Partners
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Tan's argument isn't disinterested and that's fine, but it's worth naming: cheaper open-weight alternatives lower the compute bill for every application-layer company in his own portfolio. The real diligence question for any startup building on distilled models right now is a legal one -- whether the frontier lab whose outputs got distilled has any enforceable claim, because that's an unresolved liability sitting under the whole open-weight stack.

Analysis

Y Combinator CEO Garry Tan is publicly advocating for unrestricted model distillation among US open-weight AI labs, TechCrunch reported. Tan wants smaller American open-weight labs to use the same distillation techniques on US frontier models that Chinese labs have used on Western ones, arguing it would give the US a more robust set of open-weight alternatives that aren't Chinese-controlled.

Tan frames frontier models -- built on what he calls the 'bedrock of public human knowledge' -- as a form of public good, arguing that clamping down on distillation, the process of training smaller models to mimic larger ones' behavior, would hurt the broader ecosystem more than it protects any single company's intellectual property.

Tan's position directly counters recent appeals from proprietary model developers, including OpenAI, Anthropic and Google, seeking tighter restrictions on the practice.

His comments land days after a joint advisory from the NSA, FBI and CISA flagged large-scale model-distillation efforts by Chinese companies -- the same distillation dynamic Anthropic's own September threat report flagged when it disclosed detecting Chinese distillation attacks against Claude. Tan's position directly counters recent appeals from proprietary model developers, including OpenAI, Anthropic and Google, seeking tighter restrictions on the practice.

The underlying dispute traces back to reports in early 2025 that DeepSeek had trained its own models in part on outputs generated by OpenAI's systems, a practice OpenAI said violated its terms of service without pursuing a formal legal claim. That episode set the template for a debate that has since expanded well past a single company dispute into a question of US industrial policy: whether restricting distillation of US frontier models actually protects national competitiveness, or simply cedes the entire open-weight category to Chinese labs willing to use the technique without restriction.

Tan's YC portfolio includes numerous companies building on top of both open- and closed-weight models, so his position isn't disinterested: cheaper, US-made open-weight alternatives to frontier models directly lower the compute bill for YC's own application-layer startups. Whether any US lab actually takes up his suggestion, rather than continuing to lobby for restrictions targeted specifically at Chinese distillation, is the open question this debate leaves unresolved.

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